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by **keirsey** on Mon May 16, 2011 5:36 pm

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself-and you are the easiest person to fool. So you have to be very careful about that. After you've not fooled yourself, it's easy not to fool other scientists. You just have to be honest in a conventional way after that." -- Richard Feynman

Leonard Susskind on Richard Feynman, TED Talk

by **Goodrum** on Mon May 16, 2011 9:44 pm

It's fascinating to get a person talk about their relationship with people like this, so he is an Inventor.

His father encouraged him to ask questions, to challenge orthodox thinking.

This is incredibly beautiful:

You can know the name of a bird in all the languages of the world, but when you're finished, you'll know absolutely nothing whatever about the bird... So let's look at the bird and see what it's doing — that's what counts. I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something.

Thank goodness he is from more modern times, and not Socrates.

by **stellarrenegade** on Mon May 16, 2011 10:44 pm

'But indeed the business of the universe is to make such a fool out of you that you will know yourself for one, and so begin to be wise." —George MacDonald

by **Johan** on Fri May 20, 2011 11:26 am

Enjoyed the story about the wave function of super-fluid helium, if only the world had more people who could understand, and explain, science the way Feynman did, rather than shelves of obtuse textbooks and ''facts'' regurgitated as gospel.

For anyone who's interested, this guy's approach to mathematics reminds me of Feynman, best explanation of complex numbers I've ever encountered. http://betterexplained.com/articles/a-v ... y-numbers/

In fact, I came across that website after exploring a footnote in Feynman's QED. Using it, was able to get freshman engineering students to solve trivial i^2/5/6 etc, problems by imagining rotations, as opposed to the boring bookkeeping they were doing, i.e. maths as normally taught..also allowed me to figure out an intuitive explanation of 1/i, i.e. i^-1, a clockwise rotation, giving -i. Trivial, but fun!.. at least for geeks like me!

Goodie, one of my favorite quotes, repeat it regularly..need to, as I'm still in full-time ''education''...

by **Goodrum** on Fri May 20, 2011 8:06 pm

..and it's even more than that, possibly for Healers you become it. Nature is the closest thing to 'home'.
For Somaly Mam her trees, the forest was her 'family' -when humanity had abandoned her. Nature was for Vincent Van Gogh, one of his lifelines, 'I still have my spirituality, nature and my art'. You become one with it, not just the educational aspect, the seeking, you are one with it, and communicate with it.

by **cwallace29** on Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:48 pm

Thank goodness he is from more modern times, and not Socrates.

What's wrong with Socrates?

by **Goodrum** on Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:06 pm

cwallace29 wrote:

Thank goodness he is from more modern times, and not Socrates.

What's wrong with Socrates?

He, (Socrates) was put on trial and ultimately sentenced to death by drinking a hemlock kind of potion.

I believe his temperament Inventor Rational too, enthusiastic debater, Socrates temperament thread here..

by **cwallace29** on Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:30 pm

So your not cracking on Socrates? Your cracking on the politics and government at the time of his life?

by **brian423** on Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:48 am

cwallace29 wrote:So your not cracking on Socrates? Your cracking on the politics and government at the time of his life?

The execution of Socrates ought to teach a lesson to those who whine about "judicial activism" whenever a court strikes down a legislative act or voter referendum. Momentarily setting aside the important fact that women and slaves couldn't vote, we can call ancient Athens a pure democracy instead of a liberal democracy, i.e. a democracy structured to thwart the will of the majority when it intrudes on the rights of minorities—particularly the smallest minorities of all, individuals. If only Athens had had the equivalent of the Supreme Court, Socrates' natural rights to freedom of speech and freedom of religion might have been honored.

Think about that one whenever a right-winger grumbles about a court ruling that allows gay marriage—or, perchance,

a left-winger complains about a court ruling that strikes down the compulsory purchase of health insurance. In either case, the majoritarian tyranny that killed Socrates should serve as a cautionary tale.

Just sayin'. :mrgreen:

by **Goodrum** on Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:49 pm

cwallace29 wrote:So your not cracking on Socrates? Your cracking on the politics and government at the time of his life?

Not sure what 'cracking' means USA speak, it has a sexual theme in Oz.. :lol:

Nothing more, nothing less, I enjoy Feynman, (while only having just found him here, couple of years ago via Dave). His temperament called to mind the attributes of ole Socrates.

Actually come to think of it, Feynman is very sexy. :NT: