Addictions

Traditionally much of History is about Old Dead White Dudes. But this should not impair us in discussing how Temperament is important in contributing to the involution and envolution of Mankind.

Re: Addictions

Postby stellarrenegade on Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:43 am

Quinta wrote:Addiction can coexist very well with willpower. When a person is addicted, the willpower gets subordinated and supports the addiction.

I think Artisans can get into physical addiction because they are more likely to take risks with addictive substances, or because they are likely to use a lot.

Guardians and other J's (forgot what Keirsey calls it) will more easily get into a psychological addiction, because habit is comfortable.

Rationals can become obsessive and compulsive. That goes well with addiction.

Yes, and Idealists fall into a love-relationship with the substance when use occurs at the same time as disappointment with others.

Okay, okay! We get the picture already! :bluemad:

You don't have to post it three different times for us to get it! ;)

april wrote:I have addictions; not substances, but habits. I can spend 12 hours a day on the computer, sometimes more. I get obsessed with specific topics and keep reading about them, especially on wikipedia with the related articles. Somehow the idea of bookmarking the sites and going to sleep doesn't cross my mind when I get "too" interested. I was up until 8 am on Saturday. This problem interferes with things I need to be doing. The specific activity that I'm addicted to changes, but I never fail to spend hours procrastinating on the computer. If I didn't have this issue, I'd probably be close to 100% J. ;)

I used to have a Hearts (card game) addiction. I played it on the computer for hours and hours. I also have a Tetris addiction. It's been like this for almost 3 years now, and I can't stop. I play on freetetris.org. I really, really suck though, no matter how much I "practice". With Hearts, at least I got good quickly and can win a decent percentage of the time.

Yeah, that sounds like the Mastermind type to a T. Don't fall back on arguments about "J" types because that's all relative to temperament anyway. My Mastermind friend spends all his time researching things, but when it was all said and done nobody could bring any obscure topic up that he'd never heard of. Dave even said that he's known plenty of Masterminds like that.

I don't know about the games. That seems to be a Rational thing, to get obsessed with one's ability to do something, from what I've read in Brains & Careers.
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Re: Addictions

Postby Quinta on Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:18 pm

Posting three times is what may happen when I don't watch myself. ;)
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Re: Addictions

Postby Goodrum on Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:58 pm

Quinta wrote:Posting three times is what may happen when I don't watch myself. ;)


Funny! :D :mrgreen:
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Re: Addictions

Postby stellarrenegade on Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:11 pm

You just got addicted to posting, is all. :lol:
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Re: Addictions

Postby Jeffster on Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:56 pm

My life is series of addictions. Sometimes it's been sports, sometimes girls, sometimes internet chatting, sometimes TV, sometimes writing poetry/lyrics, sometimes music/radio, and yes even personality theories for a while!

My current obsession is my personal trainer meal & workout plan that I'm on. So that's what most of my focus has been on lately.

I often say I'm thankful I never got into drugs or alcohol because I would probably be dead by now, or in prison, or at least having to work 3 jobs to support my six kids with five different women. Instead, I've got a pretty great life. :mrgreen:
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Re: Addictions

Postby christina on Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:44 pm

Olga wrote:I might need to get back to this later, but for now I am in need of a definition of "addiction". When is it an addiction anyway??

As for Guardians, I don't see why they can't develop light addictions, I especially like what is familiar, it gives me comfort and security. What I don't like is when people point it out: "it all you like", "It's all you do", "it's all you eat" and so on. SOmetimes I even feel evil and am thinking about pointing out flaws in their ways, just so they will leave me alone (with my tiny addictions).

I shall think some more about this. ;)



Well, it works.....I've given up on a friend over it. :roll: It's was a degrading situation for me......I felt like I was constantly at the mercy of her criticism........until things just reached critical mass and I finally hit my deal-breaker button :|

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In other, more trivial scenarios, I'm annoyed by those that suddenly break conversation to return a text.....and then giggle and laugh to themselves about it before returning to the conversation ....I've realized some people do this more (in one given setting) than others.


Something I have found humorous though, occurred when I was visiting my younger sister. She texts in her sleep! She literally rolled over from having been snoring and texted someone something and rolled over and went back to sleep without having any memory of doing it the next morning! On a different morning, I was flabbergasted when I found she was talking to someone on the phone half asleep before her alarm clock even went off.....it turned out to be her ex-boyfriend whom she had been trying to break up with (she had thought it was someone else). Ay, ay, ay >:d<
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Re: Addictions

Postby stellarrenegade on Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:38 pm

Bahahahaha!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: I've done that too!! I don't remember what I said, but it was utter nonsense (contextually I mean, it looked like it could've been an actual response to something). It was to the girl I had a crush on last summer. And then I told my coworkers at WalMart about it, and one of them said that she'd just done it the other day, too! hahaha.

We Artisans are master tool-users, I tellyawut. >:Y!<

And, that Fail picture is full of win, Christina. mwhahaha :mrgreen:
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Re: Addictions

Postby stellarrenegade on Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:32 am

Actually I do have addictions in the sense of going recklessly and thoughtlessly overboard with various pursuits, although when they are taken away somehow I usually don't obsess with the loss for very long. I was defining addiction as something you'd obsess over if it were taken from you.

Also, how did this get stuck in "Temperament In History"? :skeptic: >:d<
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Re: Addictions

Postby danny1987 on Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:01 pm

I often get into obsessive analysis. I keep going over and over something in my mind and I can't get it out. A lot of times I don't mind cause I keep trying to understand the issue, but sometimes it can be overbearing when I want to move on to something else and I can't even if I've analyzed it to death and have a firm grasp of the idea.
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Re: Addictions

Postby stellarrenegade on Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:30 pm

danny1987 wrote:I often get into obsessive analysis. I keep going over and over something in my mind and I can't get it out. A lot of times I don't mind cause I keep trying to understand the issue, but sometimes it can be overbearing when I want to move on to something else and I can't even if I've analyzed it to death and have a firm grasp of the idea.

Wow, that's hella focus. I usually can't keep my mind on an idea for the life of me. It slips away as fast as it came. Sometimes I'm still intent on chasing it down and get frustrated. I should just learn to let it go. :| :lol:
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