Hypatia...AD 350-370 to 415

[Narnia51483]

-But for multitudes to love rationals? (Sorry if that offends any rationals, think of this as Law of Goodrum Logic of Figuring out What Does Not Fit Here..)

Multitudes loved Obama enough for him to get elected...I think some people thought he was God's answer to every problem (not doggin' the man, just sayin' a LOT of people had what seemed to be an in-ordinate amount of love for the man).

[Olga]

Also, I was thinking that the whole menstrual rag incident sounded rather preemptive, yeah? One has got to deter those suckers BEFORE they become a big problem

Love it!

[Olga]

Goodrum, what do you think Hypathias goal with teaching was? What "gift" did she provide for her sudents?

[Goodrum]

I am coming back, itching to get back at this, just juggling a few things and on the road...meet me here under the elm tree of wisdom and knowledge at midnight where the bats frequent. okie?

[Goodrum]

...and Olga, would be able to duck to Switzerland and get us some Lindt chocolate-P-L-E-A-S-E!

A woman has needs.

[christina]

This is gonna be a good one A real stumper We're gonna juice this one for all it's worth!!!! hehehehh

Actually, it's starting to REALLY hit me as Teacher Idealist, but I'll probably re-read everything here later, think about it some more etc, etc.


Hypatia is awesome

[Olga]

...and Olga, would be able to duck to Switzerland and get us some Lindt chocolate-P-L-E-A-S-E!

A woman has needs.

I can get them in every grocery store here, no need to duck anywhere!

[Goodrum]

Goodrum, what do you think Hypatia's goal with teaching was? What "gift" did she provide for her students?

With what I was able to find, to research on her, it was knowledge, for people to learn and to also question. Debate, not necessarily accept what is said but to seek, learn and question...

The research I found was repeatedly saying, she had many skills, but she was reknowned for her "teaching"....how good she was able to communicate with her students, (and that she would walk into town-"teaching"), and how loved she was.

Is anyone noticing a bit of a theme over ages and time, cultures?

Or am I being a little paranoid....the idealist that becomes much loved, (is also much hated by some), and can end up nailed to crosses, skinned alive, burnt at stakes, asassinated by various means...

Or did it just happen to anyone...but I'm wondering here because you might be an idealist, having great ideals, and we tend to leverage that, spread it around...drew attention to ourselves..

I detour.

Also, in part of the huge outcry after Hypatia was so horribly tortured and murdered, it (apparently) lead into dark ages...it had brought an end to "free thought"....she had been about ideas, exploring, teaching...debating, questioning, more learning...she was also an athiest.

But there are rationals who are both spiritual and religious, and idealists who can be athiests but perhaps spiritual..

On the whole, it was her teaching. She inspired her students..eloquence and manner..

I think Christina raises an example, her student that fell in love with her, teaching him...

[Olga]

I am just thinking...was it possible for a woman to have been loved for breaking the rules at that time? Or is it just some romantization?

[Goodrum]

Perhaps she was the right person in the right place at the time-YET...it turned out, the wrong place...skinned, tortured and murdered.

It's like, much loved and appreciated, by people, students, adored even, fortunate to have the influence of her learned father, support her, encourage her, as many other females "at the time" would not have been.

Almost like it was an amazing time-yet worst of time for her. A push-pull moment, or was it pull-push?

From what historians write it then ended that "free thinking era"...became in sense a "dark ages"..do you get the sense we live and relive history?

It really has me thinking on idealists, their roles they have played in our history over time, we almost have had to be sacrificial cows to 1. pursue "it" and 2. be prepared to die (horrifically) for "it". Whatever, "it" may be.

We seem to be bust or bust throughs.