The Dark Escape: A Brief Brief on Madness

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Re: The Dark Escape: A Brief Brief on Madness

Postby stellarrenegade on Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:53 pm

shytiger wrote:
stellarrenegade wrote:I've been pretty confident for awhile that I'd do much better than they have. My dad always almost cried in the past when he said he'd hope I'd do better than him, and I just shrugged and said I would, don't worry. :lol:

My mom has had to admit that some of the things she's harped on me about, I actually knew what I was doing with. :mrgreen:


My uncle (my Dad's brother) is a Promoter. He never went to college but started his own business and has done great over the years, bought all the expensive toys he likes, gets to hang from skyscrapers. He's a fun guy.

It's just all about keeping your eyes and ears out for those opportunities, man. This economy might be considered a bust but I have a thousand choices at my fingertips, just waiting for me to pick the right one.
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Re: The Dark Escape: A Brief Brief on Madness

Postby Quinta on Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:15 pm

Well, my daughter came up with my hosting a 60 people party for her. Many unexpected incidents occurred, and were solved.

My sister did the foods planning. But she gets freaked out and needs support if there is something that goes wrong with the plan. I don't.
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Re: The Dark Escape: A Brief Brief on Madness

Postby shytiger on Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:22 am

stellarrenegade wrote:It's just all about keeping your eyes and ears out for those opportunities, man. This economy might be considered a bust but I have a thousand choices at my fingertips, just waiting for me to pick the right one.


I like that attitude.
If a revolution destroys a government, but the systematic patterns of thought that produced that government are left intact, then those patterns will repeat themselves.... There's so much talk about the system. And so little understanding. --Robert Pirsig
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Re: The Dark Escape: A Brief Brief on Madness

Postby Quinta on Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:00 am

Quinta wrote:
Well, my Crafter sister seems to be a better planner.
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But I doubt she is as good in contingency planning. What do you think?


I made an informal survey with my family and asked if they could come up with examples. My mom came up with my preparations in case it was the swine flu that had caused my parents' fever this summer. She also mentioned how I had insisted on making a little adjustment that would make getting to the porch easier for my old grandmother. That was before I was going to stay with her and look after her.

Anyway, I think it may be beneficial that I asked. Now they may associate contingency planning with me, and that may help me become more conscious of my strengths. Also it may make the others aware that I may be worth listening to when making decisions about future plans.
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Re: The Dark Escape: A Brief Brief on Madness

Postby Quinta on Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:22 am

I mentioned this practice earlier in this thread:

The Finnish therapist Jaakko Seikkula has had some remarkable results with schizophrenia by using the patient's network for treating the condition. For example I've heard another therapist complain that Seikkula seems to tolerate a much more complex style of communication during his network therapy, than others are able to deal with.



I didn't find any explanation of Seikkula on Wikipedia, written in English, but some friends of mine provided me with this link: http://spiritualrecoveries.blogspot.com/2006/05/dr-jaakko-seikkula-open-dialogue.html

I don't think you need to be especially spiritually inclined in order to make sense of this description. The reason for finding it at this link, is that his work is acceptable to spiritually minded people. Vygotsky's thinking on language constitutes part of Seikkula's thinking.
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Re: The Dark Escape: A Brief Brief on Madness

Postby stellarrenegade on Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:09 am

The first link is dead, but anyway, I've experienced what's called "The Dark Night Of The Soul". That's what created the major paradigm shift in my personality, or at least my conscious expression of it.
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Re: The Dark Escape: A Brief Brief on Madness

Postby Quinta on Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:15 am

The first link is dead


Not when I tried it.

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Re: The Dark Escape: A Brief Brief on Madness

Postby Quinta on Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:15 am

The first link is dead


Not when I tried it.

Important, Stellar.
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Re: The Dark Escape: A Brief Brief on Madness

Postby stellarrenegade on Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:23 am

I meant the first link on the page you linked to, not your link. This one: http://www.talkingcure.com/index.asp?id=48

It's completely dead for me. Immediately says the page cannot be found.
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Re: The Dark Escape: A Brief Brief on Madness

Postby stellarrenegade on Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:04 pm

keirsey wrote:Seriously, the Guardians are Depressives. So there are the Burdened Fretters: Sorry Mourners and Scared Worriers; and Disabled Weaklings: Sick Invalids and Tired Strikers.

Has anybody guessed these yet?

The Sorry Mourners are obviously Protectors, not only because mourning is not an expressive trait but because it reminds me so much of my friend. And Scared Worrier definitely sounds like my mom.

I'm guessing that Sick Invalid is the Inspector (haha, definitely sounds like my old coworker, when he got too frustrated with how something was run he'd just opt out as much as he could) and the Tired Strikers are the Supervisors? What does it mean by Striker, though, someone who goes on strike? Interesting, not sure how that would play out.
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