Heath Ledger

[ShayShay]

I've found the NFs (or at least myself, ENFP) have difficulty speaking sometimes. We have difficulty finding the right words we want to say. It's like we have this certain way that it has to be said in our head and we can't say it any other way, thus stumble over our words/thoughts or take pauses between sentences to gather our thoughts and the right way to say it. It's kindof hard to explain, but I've noticed it with myself and two other ENFPs I know, as well as an INFP friend of mine.

I actually have to say that I agree with that being an NF thing at times. I totally identify with the SPOKEN word, without preparation, being hard to always express myself the way I'd like. If I have a little more time, I am usually ok. Written is a different story...I usually feel able to get my point across.

I feel difficulty both ways, but written is SO much easier than spoken. Yes, yes. A ton easier.

[fuzzynavelnot21]

So....ENFP123...are you saying that for you, finding the right words to say something is often not a problem?

[ENFP123]

rarely, especially if i put my mind to it, when chatting online it can be problematic because I can't tell exactly how people are reacting and therefore I'm not sure that I'm effectively getting my point across and I cannot then appropriately react (formal writting isn't to bad because i actually think about it but just typing online I'm often to vague).

[fuzzynavelnot21]

Yea, I understand you about the online stuff too....for sure! I love it though, haha. IM I mean...thats my preferred method.

[Architron]

Batman = ISTJ

[fuzzynavelnot21]

Batman as a character? Noooo....I do not see that at all! Not sure what I would say he is exactly....but no way the Inspector.

[ShayShay]

Batman = ISTJ

Hmm...possibly. I do see him as an SJ.

[Lord Vetinari]

ISTJ seem's appropriate to me. He is decidedly Concrete, not Abstract. For all his physical prowess, I cannot see him as an Artisian. He is not an F, so must be a T; and I cannot see how he would be a supervisor.

[Uberfuhrer]

Personally, I see Batman as more of an NF Idealist, probably INFP. He isn't really upholding society's values like an SJ would, but rather taking the role of a catalyst for change, based on a set of deep-seated personal values. I think that Commissioner Gordon is the more likely ISTJ candidate.

The Joker seemed to be a sociopathic NF of some kind, too, possibly ENFP Champion.

Heath Ledger, as an actor, I think might've been an NF, too. He stuck me as the kind of actor who used acting as an expression of the self, which is what many Idealists use acting for, as opposed to the Artisans, who choose performing for the thrill of the moment.

[ENFP123]

Personally, I see Batman as more of an NF Idealist, probably INFP. He isn't really upholding society's values like an SJ would, but rather taking the role of a catalyst for change, based on a set of deep-seated personal values. I think that Commissioner Gordon is the more likely ISTJ candidate.

The Joker seemed to be a sociopathic NF of some kind, too, possibly ENFP Champion.

Heath Ledger, as an actor, I think might've been an NF, too. He stuck me as the kind of actor who used acting as an expression of the self, which is what many Idealists use acting for, as opposed to the Artisans, who choose performing for the thrill of the moment.

"Composers are just as plentiful as the other Artisans, say nine or ten per cent of the population, but in general they are very difficult to observe and thus greatly misunderstood. Very likely the difficulty comes from their tendency not to express themselves verbally, but through their works of art." - Keirsey.com