Aung San Suu Kyi

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Re: Aung San Suu Kyi

Postby Goodrum on Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:54 am

In an interview with The Associated Press on Thursday, Suu Kyi called her detention "illegal" and said she was released simply because the decreed period of her house arrest had ended.

"I don't think there were any other reasons," she said in an interview in her small, spartan office, decorated with little beyond a vase of flowers and a black-and-white photograph of her late father, Aung San, who helped lead colonial Burma to independence from Britain.

"My detention had come to an end and there were no immediate means of extending it," she said.

The 65-year-old Nobel Peace Prize laureate, set free from her lakeside residence on Saturday, has made it clear she plans to pursue her goal of a democratic Burma but has been careful not to verbally challenge the junta or call for its overthrow.

Since Saturday, though, the generals and their longtime archrival have had no contact.

"I haven't seen any sign of the junta at all since I came out. They haven't made any move to let us know what they feel about the situation," she said.

She added, though, that her goals would not change.

"I had better go on living until I see a democratic Burma," she said, laughing.

She has called for face-to-face talks with the junta leader, General Than Shwe, to reach national reconciliation
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Re: Aung San Suu Kyi

Postby Goodrum on Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:29 am

An interview about the Burmese economy, Suu Kyi talking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_oabUxz ... re=related

And from my local paper, The Age, reporters in Rangoon:

BURMESE democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi will consider recognising this month's parliament elected in a vote widely derided as a fraud and might support a softening of international sanctions.

''We have got to be able to talk to each other,'' Ms Suu Kyi told The Washington Post at the headquarters of her National League for Democracy. ''I think, firstly, we have to start talking affably - real genuine talks, not just have some more tea or this or that.''


Ms Suu Kyi, 65, spoke frankly about her plans. She said she was not surprised by the way the junta had rigged the November 7 election, giving itself 80 per cent of seats. ''It's no use saying that you can choose freely between a rock and a hard place,'' she said. ''We want meaningful choice.''

Although her party boycotted the vote, she said she would be willing to work within the parliamentary framework if the government gives opposition forces sufficient voice.

She stepped away from her support for economic sanctions imposed by the US and the European Union. ''Obviously, there has to be a time when we must rethink the situation,'' she said. Sanctions have been a major point of contention with General Than Shwe's junta.



and her concern for the young people:

Diplomats said if Ms Suu Kyi asks for the ending of sanctions, ''obviously we would need to listen to that case''.

Ms Suu Kyi said she was considering opening a Facebook page to reach younger Burmese.

''They [Burma's censors] cannot keep even these young people - boys - cut off completely from the rest of the world,'' she said
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Re: Aung San Suu Kyi

Postby mkb32 on Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:35 am

She is very serious.
Never any sarcasm or play on words, no condescending comments.
Not much personal opinon. Facts.
Her communication is very frank, clear and direct. Could be described as polite.

I haven't found any example of her use of metaphors.
Metaphors are used by others to describe her but she doesn't seem to use them.

She doesn't seem to want to acknowledge that she has sacrificed her life for her country.
She will only identify that she has made "choices" for duty.
No dramatic words. No symbolic actions.

Even beyond culture, natural Idealist communication is steeped in dramatic metaphors.
Inspirational dramatic words.

Idealists (NFs), as a temperament, are passionately concerned with personal growth and development. Idealists strive to discover who they are and how they can become their best possible self -- always this quest for self-knowledge and self-improvement drives their imagination. And they want to help others make the journey.


She never talks about her own soul searching personal growth.
Nor does she talk about others seeking the same.

She talks about what is right and wrong with the laws and the government. How they don't even follow thier own rules.

I don't see "passion" or "enthusiasm" for a noble cause.
I see a stable, steady, disciplined and self-effacing example being set for others ---> IF they notice.
She seems aware of her own authority and preserving it by living according to her own "code" of integrity.

She is not "screaming" Look! Look! Look at this crap and what they have done and the anguish I am enduring! --->Others do the "screaming" for her.

"I had better go on living until I see a democratic Burma," she said, laughing.

She wants to complete the the task, the work or the job of "living" to see "democracy" completed.
Dramatic Idealists want to die for the cause.

And that constant control of emotions.
I don't care how steeped we are in religion and culture, Idealist emotions eventually show. We are eventually going to "flip out" on you. We "loose it": emotional control.

This woman has MUCH to rage against and mourn and fear.
There is enough long term media to prove that she doesn't show such.

WORDs are a great Idealist tool. Emotion inducing [inspirational] words. It would be very easy for her to find a platform to express emotion inducing words.
It seems she has plenty of requests for them. She doesn't do it. Others do it on her behalf.
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Re: Aung San Suu Kyi

Postby mkb32 on Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:41 am

I say her tool usage is cooperative NOT utilitarian and her communication is concrete NOT abstract.

My guess is attentive NOT expressive. --->from waay outside looking in.
But Guardians are the most social of the 4 temperaments. Especially the Providers.
So much emotional control for all that isolation and Providers are naturally emotionally expressive people.

And I just don't see her as directive as a Supervisor. ---> I haven't seen or heard any mention of people "acting on her orders".
Lots of folks want to tell her story for her, but I haven't noticed anyone speaking for her because she has told them to do so.
It seems more like there are a whole lot of folks wanting her to tell them what to do and she doesn't seem to be doing that.
Can a Supervisor NOT tell people what to do!?! Especially if people continue to ask them to do so?

I'm not quite sure about the Feeling -vs- Thinking, tho.
If we consider Provider -vs- Inspector:
I haven't been able to identify how detail oriented she is.

BUT these quotes:
Goodrum wrote:From Suu Kyi at Yangon, Myanmar 14/11/10:

"I believe in human rights and I believe in the rule of law. I will always fight for these things,” she told the crowd. “I want to work with all democratic forces and I need the support of the people.”

“If we want to get what we want, we have to do it in the right way; otherwise we will not achieve our goal however noble or correct it may be,” she cautioned.

Later, Suu Kyi told reporters her message to junta leader Gen. Than Shwe was. “Let’s speak to each other directly.”

Goodrum wrote:Same talk:
“Honestly, throughout these years of detention, they have treated me well. But they have not acted according to the rule of law, and that I will always fight against,” she told reporters.


sound very Guardian Inspector(ish) to me
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Re: Aung San Suu Kyi

Postby keirsey on Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:05 pm

We (Eddy and I) are writing a book on Leadership and "our word" for the Protector Guardian leader is "The Serving Leader." We see the Serving Leaders as using their talents in Logistics as their primary "way" of "leading." Stepping back, looking at the situation from a "whole" -- I don't see Aung San Suu Kyi using logistics to a large extent. So I am concluding, based on Michele's and Goodrum's most excellent research, that Aung San Suu Kyi's is a clear Counselor Idealist: "The Inspirational Leader" -- The Diplomatic Contender.
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Re: Aung San Suu Kyi

Postby keirsey on Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:13 pm

By the by, the history of "Burma" and it's people is absolutely fascinating and (and of course my favorite word) complicated. My boys are 1/16 genetically Burmese (and their mitochondria is 100% Mon).
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Re: Aung San Suu Kyi

Postby mkb32 on Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:55 pm

high 5, cb! :D

I swear I still keep thinking "How in the heck does she do it?"
This Idealist would be a "basket case". Ceritfiable "nut job", "coo-coo", "crazy", "bonkers" and some other very professional diagnosis provided by DSM-IV Codes.
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Re: Aung San Suu Kyi

Postby Goodrum on Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:28 pm

"Counselors are like their Mentor twins, the Educators, in that both are directive"...from Personology (Keirsey) page 175, "the one giving advice, the other directives"....and from page 174, "It is also assumed that Counselors are likely to be more efficient acting as Inspectors than as Arrangers."

"Thus Diplomatic Contenders are not very expressive when doing so is not on their agenda."

"Advisement is the side of diplomatic mediation that focuses on helping people to realise their potentials, and both kinds of enterprising Idealists have an unusually strong desire to contribute to the welfaring and wellbeing of others.."

Well Suu Kyi must have some metaphors somewhere Michele, I just didn't find them...and last night there was a clip from her film, "Beyond Rangoon" where she is walking with fellow protestors and the soldiers threaten to shoot them, she directs the others to go back, stay, while she walks on by herself, as what Gandhi did holding his ground in his (film) clip too. Actually, then, there is another Contender example via youtube. She stood her ground, actually slowly walked up to the soldier threatening to shoot, another more senior soldier called to him to desist. I never saved it. >:d<

I'll go through all this again (later) and get it right in my mind. See where I've gone wrong.
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Re: Aung San Suu Kyi

Postby Goodrum on Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:30 pm

Yes, definitely Inspirational leader.
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Re: Aung San Suu Kyi

Postby Goodrum on Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:41 pm

Here is the clip from Beyond Rangoon, her and the soldiers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Db5700J ... re=related
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