Aung San Suu Kyi

[mkb32]

Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, 1991 Nobel Peace Prize winner (amongst many other awards) and the pro-democracy opposition leader in Myanmar, who has spent 15 of the last 21 years under house arrest was released with restrictions.

... she began the new relationship with a flat refusal to cooperate, according to a person close to the negotiations who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

“Democracy is when the people keep a government in check,” she told the crowd outside her party’s headquarters here in the city once known as Rangoon. “To achieve democracy we need to create a network, not just in our country but around the world. I will try to do that. If you do nothing you get nothing.”

“I need to know what you want first,” she said to the crowd. “Do you know what you want?”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/15/world ... l?ref=asia

“I’m not going to be able to do it alone,” she said at the news conference. “One person alone can’t do anything as important as bringing genuine democracy to a country.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aung_San_Suu_Kyi

Influenced by both Mahatma Gandhi's philosophy of non-violence and by more specifically Buddhist concepts, Aung San Suu Kyi entered politics to work for democratization, helped found the National League for Democracy on 24 September 1988, and was put under house arrest on 20 July 1989. She was offered freedom if she left the country, but she refused.

http://www.dassk.com/index.php

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Burma ... peech.html
1990 "Freedom From Fear" speech

It is not power that corrupts but fear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwKEdFoUB0o

U2 believe the world must not be allowed to forget Aung San Suu Kyi and on the 360 Tour fans are invited to wear the mask when the band play Walk On, which was written for her.

I'm a rock-n-roll junkie ya'll -- of all the tributes to her I could have posted, I HAD to use this one.

[keirsey]

Taken from her speech that Michele posted.

It is not power that corrupts but fear. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it and fear of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it. Most Burmese are familiar with the four a-gati, the four kinds of corruption. Chanda-gati, corruption induced by desire, is deviation from the right path in pursuit of bribes or for the sake of those one loves. Dosa-gati is taking the wrong path to spite those against whom one bears ill will, and moga-gati is aberration due to ignorance. But perhaps the worst of the four is bhaya-gati, for not only does bhaya, fear, stifle and slowly destroy all sense of right and wrong, it so often lies at the root of the other three kinds of corruption.

A-gati = corruption

Chanda-gati = desire-corruption (Artisan)
Dosa-gati = harmony-corruption (Idealist)
Moga-gati = knowledge-corruption (Rational)
Bhaya-gati = safety-corruption (Guardian)

Does it make sense?

[charliebrown]

is this a classic case of diplomatic contending?

[charliebrown]

>:Y!<


Bhaya-gati = safety-corruption (Guardian)

Does it make sense?

bhaya-gati corruption makes sense to me, especially at the moment, I've been having an internet 'discussion' with a probable guardian .

If she's (ASSK) an idealist it makes sense that she would rate it as no.1. Perhaps Guardian 'corruption' is probably not even seen as corruption, it's so subtle and pervasive. Ha hah! it's in the Bible, in the attitude of the Pharisees, i.e the straining a fly from your soup but letting camel in... pedantic and stupid!!! under the guise of authority.

[Narnia51483]

Thank you, cb, for identifying the Pharisees, at least some or most, or the way they were, as corrupted guardians. I've heard them called Idealist, and I can't think of any reason why. None of them seemed to encourage growth, empathy, wisdom, etc. They just wanted everyone to fall in line and obey.

[mkb32]

is this a classic case of diplomatic contending?

Seems like it from a glance, doesn't it CB?

We need to take in consideration that she is Theravada Buddhist. ---> I know that shytiger has offered an opinion that I agree with; Buddhism seems like an Idealist religion

Theravada promotes the concept of Vibhajjavada (Pali), literally "Teaching of Analysis." This doctrine says that insight must come from the aspirant's experience, critical investigation, and reasoning instead of by blind faith; however, the scriptures of the Theravadan tradition also emphasize heeding the advice of the wise, considering such advice and evaluation of one's own experiences to be the two tests by which practices should be judged.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theravada


AND ethnic tensions of her native culture: Burma, officially the Republic of the Union of Myanmar
--> I don't personally know or have ever met anyone from this part of the world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma


A starting place would be to attempt to identify whether she seems to have abstract or concrete subject matter preferences in verbal or written communication.

[charliebrown]

the pattern of her actions speak of classic idealist traits. She does not speak of policy or any of the economic fundamentals in governing the country... but an overarching idealist rhetoric.

Her commitment to her country and cause for the sake of ideal and principle alone suggest idealist.

The fact that she hasn't seen her son in years and could have gone back to England to say goodbye to her husband who was dying of cancer... are like M.Ghandi's food strikes.

The religious conviction, passion, zealotry...

Her gentle and diplomatic nature...

[Al3322]

We need to take in consideration that she is Theravada Buddhist. ---> I know that shytiger has offered an opinion that I agree with; Buddhism seems like an Idealist religion

A Vietnamese friend once told me that Buddhism is a thinking person's religion.

Carl Sagan:

For example, in theological discussions with religious leaders, I often ask what their response would be if a central tenet of their faith were disproved by science. When I put this question to the Dalai Lama, he unhesitatingly replied as no conservative or fundamentalist religious leaders do: In such a case, he said, Tibetan Buddhism would have to change.

[stellarrenegade]

I really like her quotes.

>:Y!<

Taken from her speech that Michele posted.

It is not power that corrupts but fear. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it and fear of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it. Most Burmese are familiar with the four a-gati, the four kinds of corruption. Chanda-gati, corruption induced by desire, is deviation from the right path in pursuit of bribes or for the sake of those one loves. Dosa-gati is taking the wrong path to spite those against whom one bears ill will, and moga-gati is aberration due to ignorance. But perhaps the worst of the four is bhaya-gati, for not only does bhaya, fear, stifle and slowly destroy all sense of right and wrong, it so often lies at the root of the other three kinds of corruption.

A-gati = corruption

Chanda-gati = desire-corruption (Artisan)
Dosa-gati = harmony-corruption (Idealist)
Moga-gati = knowledge-corruption (Rational)
Bhaya-gati = safety-corruption (Guardian)

Does it make sense?

Hm, yeah.

Kind of annoying that Chanda-gati is seen as the usual (or even worst) form of corruption. But she sees fear as the worst. Is it possible that this is because she's a Rational? Or maybe she's an Artisan, which would be why she'd see fear as a bane.

[charliebrown]

I wonder what the regime is up to?

Somehow I always think of rationals as being more pragmatic & policy oriented if they are involved in politics... like Hillary Clinton.