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Postby mkb32 on Sat May 08, 2010 7:40 am

Hey David!
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Postby Narnia51483 on Sat May 08, 2010 9:46 am

Hi David! So glad you joined us. :D

I'm sure you will find this site pretty fascinating if you are interested in psycology and philosophy. We talk about a lot of different stuff here.
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Postby Olga on Sat May 08, 2010 10:09 am

DSM wrote:
Olga wrote: What role do you think philosophy has/could have/should have, in psychology?


You assume that philosophy has a role in psychology... :mrgreen:
I disagree, although it had a role in the begining of psychology.

Here's some general info from wikipedia:

Philosophy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy

Psychology: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology

Hmmm, the above sounds a little rude...
No offence intended though!!! >:D<


I shall be honest! I didn't click those links! ;)

No offense silly. But you got one word wrong! "assume". But is ok, Stellar says that all the time about me :mrgreen: that I assume things. Ok, he said it once, but still :?

Anyway. What I believe, is that things are connected, but are easier to explain and demonstrate (usually) when we take them apart. The human is a whole, if using one technique, one risks to forget the rest! I could go a bit further, saying that theology too, is a part. But I won't, you weren't interested in it!

What do you think?
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Postby keirsey on Sat May 08, 2010 10:17 am

DSM wrote:My aspirations is to become a expert in the following areas:
Psychology, Physics, Mathematics, Genetics and some other things.


:twisted: >:D< 18?

I have a few ;) book suggestions. :-?

Of course you should go to college at the highest "named" school you can attain, this is most important for Physics and Mathematics (and Genetics). Unfortunately (in my opinion) academic Psychology is a wasteland, mostly junk science. I have self-reeducated myself in Physics, Mathematics, Biology (I did take the normal classes in high school and college) and I was lucky to have my father as my teacher (who I argued with, since I was into Artificial Intelligence and he was into Natural Stupidity). I have noticed by reading the biographies and histories of scientists and mathematicians (e.g., the History of Quantum Theory (six volumes) and the Men of Mathematics) they also significantly self-educated themselves, with an occasional crucial mentoring. They didn't take the "straight and narrow." (Even though many (like Heisenberg, Feynman) appeared like "normal" academics).

So, for example, John Nash read the flawed and marvelous book Men of Mathematics, as a boy. Heisenberg read Plato in the original Greek (and was incredulous that such a famous and a "celebrity" person would make such a stupid mistake like using "perfect" forms WITHOUT ANY CLEAR and PRECISE EVIDENCE).

Here are a few books, I recommend, not sure which ones you are ready for but here it goes.

Mathematics
The Men of Mathematics, by Eric Bell
Physics
Hyperspace, by Michio Kaku
Genetics
Microcosmos by Lynn Margulis
Psychology
Please Understand Me II by Keirsey (of course)
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Re: [Insert random greeting here]

Postby DSM on Sat May 08, 2010 12:39 pm

keirsey wrote::twisted: >:D< 18?


What? Did it surprise you? :)

keirsey wrote:Of course you should go to college


I have one year left in high school to finish, due to some learning difficulties in elementary school, it was decided that i had to take the first grade twice...
And i did learn to write and read much later than my fellow classmates...

But those early problems is mostly gone now though. :mrgreen:

keirsey wrote:Here are a few books, I recommend, not sure which ones you are ready for but here it goes.

Mathematics
The Men of Mathematics, by Eric Bell
Physics
Hyperspace, by Michio Kaku
Genetics
Microcosmos by Lynn Margulis
Psychology
Please Understand Me II by Keirsey (of course)


The Men of Mathematics, Hyperspace and Microcosmos added to wish list on Amazon...

Please Understand Me II, i bought it a couple of days ago... Although it's gonna take a while until i get it in the mail.
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Re: [Insert random greeting here]

Postby keirsey on Sat May 08, 2010 5:31 pm

DSM wrote:
keirsey wrote::twisted: >:D< 18?


What? Did it surprise you? :)

keirsey wrote:Of course you should go to college


I have one year left in high school to finish, due to some learning difficulties in elementary school, it was decided that i had to take the first grade twice...
And i did learn to write and read much later than my fellow classmates...

But those early problems is mostly gone now though. :mrgreen:



No surprise, just you are a babe in the woods: I have lived life three times more. I forgotten more than you know -- but you have probably four times as much time to learn than I.

Did you know Albert Einstein had a similar problem in having a difficulty with school? And, I was put in the "dumb" reading group, because I couldn't read out loud (I could read silently, much faster than anybody in class). Luckily my mother was a teacher, and she told my second grade teacher -- I could read. Also I was lucky because my "dyslexia" didn't exist in the 50's, it had to be invented in the next decades.
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Postby Narnia51483 on Sat May 08, 2010 6:59 pm

They told me I have dysgraphia..haha
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Postby DSM on Sat May 08, 2010 10:53 pm

keirsey wrote:Did you know Albert Einstein had a similar problem in having a difficulty with school? And, I was put in the "dumb" reading group, because I couldn't read out loud (I could read silently, much faster than anybody in class). Luckily my mother was a teacher, and she told my second grade teacher -- I could read. Also I was lucky because my "dyslexia" didn't exist in the 50's, it had to be invented in the next decades.


In elementary school: they though i had ADHD, now they think i have Asperger syndrome...
I don't mind since it means i will get a little special treatment.
Which i might need in the Norwegian classes since the politicans seems to think that instead of practicing writing essays or articles you are instead going to learn Norwegian history... :ahum:

I did know that Albert Einstein had problems in school though. 8-)
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Postby DSM on Sun May 09, 2010 12:12 am

Olga wrote:I shall be honest! I didn't click those links! ;)


Meanie!!! :rulez: :NT:

Olga wrote:No offense silly. But you got one word wrong! "assume". But is ok, Stellar says that all the time about me :mrgreen: that I assume things. Ok, he said it once, but still :?


Better safe than sorry... :P

Olga wrote:Anyway. What I believe, is that things are connected, but are easier to explain and demonstrate (usually) when we take them apart. The human is a whole, if using one technique, one risks to forget the rest! I could go a bit further, saying that theology too, is a part. But I won't, you weren't interested in it!

What do you think?


Me think you need to explain it more clearly... :!:
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Re: [Insert random greeting here]

Postby Olga on Sun May 09, 2010 4:04 am

DSM wrote:
Olga wrote:I shall be honest! I didn't click those links! ;)


Meanie!!! :rulez: :NT:

Nah. It's just that I am tired. I see so many links and other things that I seem to stray away from what I myself want to do or read. Usually, what's behind those links is really long and I need to adjust to that reading, or it's filled with so much information that my head feels like exploding. And I won't remember it all anyway. I tend to postpone most links until later when I am feeling ready for them. I have too much to deal with already and my own literature to cover. ;)

Olga wrote:Anyway. What I believe, is that things are connected, but are easier to explain and demonstrate (usually) when we take them apart. The human is a whole, if using one technique, one risks to forget the rest! I could go a bit further, saying that theology too, is a part. But I won't, you weren't interested in it!

What do you think?


I will try! What I think, is, that, which comes from the human, is what can be applied on human. One of the things is not enough, because they tell a side-story only. By integrating as much as possible, you get a bigger perspective. If you are looking at a building, it is not just the roof that is a building, it has also windows, walls, door(s)...and so on. The same with the human, just psychology is not enough! And even psychology itself makes it very difficult, because psychology is divided into sub-schools. And which one is right? Each and everyone! And at the same time...NONE! Let's say a person has a problem, which can be explained with psychology, but what if the problem is not psychological, but can acutally be solved with something else...like say...philosophy? Or religion? Or in very few cases...biology (science/medicine)?? Yet it CAN be explained with psychology! The person then, is not in the middle, it is the school that is in the middle, and the glasses one chooses to wear when examining the person, can very well determine their future...

And at the end of the day, the human is still bigger than just one perspective!


Me think you need to explain it more clearly... :!:


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