I think I'm an ESTP (Promoter)

[stellarrenegade]

Quite interesting! If you're the leader, can I be the follower....and when I figure out how to do the heart smiley thing, this is where I would put it. You're very interesting. I don't think I've ever wanted to switch from a S function to an N....but, strangely enough,...I distinctly remember why I "chose S" answers the first time I took the test....because I didn't trust my gut/abstractions as being "accurate"...now I know abstractions can be equally accurate, if not more so (not to mention useful and stimulating). I actually have so much more to say...but my show is on....have fun!

Sure, you can follow if you want! We can even make a gang! We always need a latina bunny, of course. Every gang does.

Thanks for telling me I'm interesting, that's probably the highest compliment I could ever get... even if people think I'm off the beaten path and just different, at least they feel like I'm interesting! haha

I don't trust intuitions anymore either, did I say that in this thread? I wonder if they'll come back in such a way that they'll be trustworthy again, though... I don't know. Doesn't matter.

I'd rather go play pirates. I'm serious, there's gotta be a way to like rent a wooden boat or something and dress in costume and go play out on the lake. We might even get someone to bury treasure deep in the water and not tell us where it is.

[Jeffster]

But if that's so, then I must've changed. Cuz I used to be more introverted and feeling-oriented. But I don't think that's really me. I was flipping through baby pictures today and when I was a baby I was into everything, I loved instruments, I was always banging on pots and pans or mopping in my dad's shoes or grabbing kitties out in the yard or clambering on top of tables. I think somewhere along the line I learned to retreat inside myself.

Either way, I think a person can kind of change who they are over time. I don't know if it's absolute, but whatever. I used to be way more intuitive and I could sit there for hours inside my head thinking or daydreaming. But after awhile I got tired of that. I used to be able to write poetry, now I find I can't. I can try to fit words together analytically but it just doesn't have spirit. For awhile I was very philosophical but I can't really think up any new ideas, I just repeat what I learned a long time ago. I think I went from INFP (healer) to INTP (architect) to ENTP (inventor) to ESTP (promoter). I used to research this stuff alot and I even read Jung's writings on the different functions which enabled me to absorb other functions I wasn't used to. On my inventor stint I was always discussing ideas with people, especially about the MBTI types. It was fun for awhile, then I randomly ran off to WA to be a camp counselor in the mountains, not really telling people I was thinking about staying there cuz I didn't really know for sure anyway.

Then I ended up staying in Seattle and one day I decided to take a very long walk and ended up just not coming back home for a bit. I hung out on the streets for a few days trying to find myself and my purpose and came back a very different man. Now I find myself here five years later wanting to go back (I moved back to Texas shortly after that walk) and just wanting to party with people my age. But I want to be the one hosting those parties and creating a kind of revolutionary movement.

I think the place I'm most myself is at work. I literally come alive there. As soon as I hit that door I'm running off to find the tools I need for the job and pulling a pallet out and getting to work immediately. My coworkers can trust me to be the one finding the carts, and good ones, too. I'm usually the one pulling out a pallet fifteen minutes before break saying, "We can do this real quick!" They like me because I'm alot of fun and I can help pull them through in a pinch if need be. I love to conversate with everyone even if they're a stranger. I just treat them as if I've known them my entire life.

I also meet with a small group meeting (like a house church meeting but not affiliated with any church or denomination - which is kind of what I'm referring to as far as a revolution) where we just get together to sing songs and pray for each other. The highlight of those meetings for me is getting to play the drums. Apparently I'm rather good as one of the musically inclined guys who is the host admitted to trying to impress me with his drum playing.

They also said tonight I'm just becoming bolder and more energetic as time goes on.

So, what do you think? I feel like I'm finally, truly myself. But then the question is... was I really myself back when I was a poet/philosopher? Can those parts of me still be accessed? At times I can become quite focused and though I don't get annoyed nearly as much as I used to when I'm interrupted (I even enjoy it now) sometimes I do still get lost in my thoughts. But I find I'm not really able to trust my intuition anymore and for the most part that kind of life bores me.

Just wondering what you all think. Sorry for the long post, hope you had fun reading it. Thanks.

tl;dr

Welcome stellar!

[stellarrenegade]

Hey, there's some exciting stories in there, too!

But you're right, there's too much text on these message boards already... oh well!

Thanks for the welcome! Looking forward to having some major fun.

[Architron]

To answer your question:

You are an initiator.
We have little to no initiators on the forum.
Initiators do things.
Doing things in a forum environment implies getting the ball rolling.

This makes me happy. I have things to respond to.
Carry on.

[stellarrenegade]

WHEEEEEE!

Thanks for that! I feel on top of the world when people acknowledge my ability to initiate! I'm constantly trying to get people to actively do something, especially on dead message boards. Not saying this board is always dead, but I do hope it continues to stay as active as it is now and perhaps becomes more so in times to come...

[stellarrenegade]

haha, this thread is the third entry when searching for "promoter work play keirsey" on google. I was looking for a more extended description than the one on the official Keirsey site that I've seen before. I just thought it was funny that my thread happened to come up when I searched for that...

[SunPath]

Fuzzy wrote:

These are a few thoughts I had regarding this topic that I shared with a friend but decided to go ahead and post here also.

I like Dave's response to this topic. Essentially, that is the point....what we get from KTT. And as Dave has said before, people define themselves ultimately.

In keeping with Glasser's Choice Theory, really someone can chose at any moment to react in any way they want to a situation (to control their total behavior--thoughts, actions and indirectly feelings and physiology)...and most people think they are superbly good at this. What a lot of people fail to realize is what comes the easiest, most naturally to them is what temperament is. So no, no one is limited to reacting a certain way (as people will argue is the reason they don't want to be defined), but they essentially are just simply not going to be equally efficient in each 'brain' (diplomatic, logistic, strategic, tactical). Thus, without much practice or a decent amount of intelligence in other 'brains', they will most often chose whatever is easiest and comes most naturally, hence having displayed and reacted within their temperament. I think the argument that people don't want to be defined somewhat goes along with Glasser's external control ideas. People see this as a means of limiting someone to be a certain way and so they rebel against those perceived limits. Yet, when convenient, people will quote those same limits as a reason why they are unable to do something....."I can't help it; its just the way I am".

Wow! Exceptionally well said. I love how you tied Choice Theory and KTT together to address this frequently heard comment. Nicely assimilated and explained! I bet you scored high on comprehensive tests, Fuzzy!

[fuzzynavelnot21]

I love how you tied Choice Theory and KTT together to address this frequently heard comment. Nicely assimilated and explained!

Thanks.

I bet you scored high on comprehensive tests, Fuzzy!

Well, now this is just gonna sound dumb. What's a comprehensive test?

[stellarrenegade]

Haha!

Hey, Angela! How are you?

[SunPath]

I am doing well. And you?

Fuzzy, check this out. I'm sure you'll remember these types of tests from school. For the answers, go here. And for more tests, go here. And one more for Mark Twain (Rational) fans.