Misconceptions: Rational

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Re: Misconceptions: Rational

Postby stellarrenegade on Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:40 am

Goodrum wrote:....MKB... President insitu of The Hair Club. Secretary: Ms Goodrum....Promotions Officer: The Renegade Man!

Sounds good! How much do I get paid?

Goodrum wrote:I lost my link for the english speaking warholiser site, could only find it in German.

Admit it, you're a German metal-head! We all know the secret life you've been living now, it's time to finally just come clean. ;)
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Re: Misconceptions: Rational

Postby Goodrum on Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:23 pm

You are funny! I am going to warholiser you, just for fun.. :D

Someone has swiped my upload pics button, so I have uploaded ur warholised avatar as my avatar...check it out. Goodrum with facial hair. :mrgreen:
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Re: Misconceptions: Rational

Postby fuzzynavelnot21 on Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:59 pm

Greybadger- So how would you refute those misconceptions with KTT?
The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed.-- Carl Jung
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Re: Misconceptions: Rational

Postby The Grey Badger on Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:08 pm

Hanged if I know - I haven't even tried yet. First I have to sort them. Let me see --

The disheveled loveable fuzzy-haired genius is clearly a - let me still use the older terminology since the book I ordered is nowhere in sight - an Architect Rational. The tentacle-head in the lab coat is an Inventor Rational? No, Field Marshal, for wanting to take over the world. The coldly logical starship second-in-command is a Mastermind Rational. The more I think about it, the more I think the sinister clown corrupting the youth of the city-state isn't a Rational but a Teacher Idealist. And the one who can twist anyone's words and talk anybody into any thing would have to be some brand of Idealist as well if s/he's a theoretician. Otherwise we'd have a Promoter Artisan. The skinny nervous guy who Do Not Understand Reality is probably the class nerd who grows up to be Bill Gates, so, Inventor Rational?

Further than that, I'll wait on the book. If the order ever went through. If the credit card or paypal or whatever I used ever cleared.
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Re: Misconceptions: Rational

Postby stellarrenegade on Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:14 pm

Goodrum wrote:You are funny! I am going to warholiser you, just for fun.. :D

Someone has swiped my upload pics button, so I have uploaded ur warholised avatar as my avatar...check it out. Goodrum with facial hair. :mrgreen:

hahahaha! Awesome! You're funny, too!

I really like my face with various colors. It's like candy.
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Re: Misconceptions: Rational

Postby Architron on Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:47 am

#7 made me giggle devilishly inside.


Misconception: Cold, lacking expression, insensitive.
Response: If I may generalize, our work is our expression.

As for insensitivity, allow me to quote Aristotle:

Plato is dear to me.
But dearer to me is the truth.
I am, by far, the most modest person you will ever have the pleasure of meeting. Ever.
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Re: Misconceptions: Rational

Postby christina on Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:37 pm

Misconception: Cold, lacking expression, insensitive.
Response: If I may generalize, our work is our expression.


Call me a rotten tomato, but having this "not-otherwise-thought-about" dimension to your personality doesn't mean Rationals are "not" cold and "not" insensitive. So, I guess, I'm asking you to clarify.


EDIT IN: Sorry, late at night, brain is not working (not that it works most of the time). I see that "insensitivity" or lack of sensitivity can be a preference for the truth. Rationals can be very sensitive people, that fact alone can refute the misconception of being "insensitive". However, many may be/choose to be insensitive.....most of the time.
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Re: Misconceptions: Rational

Postby christina on Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:37 pm

GB, I really liked your responses (for the record).
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Re: Misconceptions: Rational

Postby LightningMan on Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:51 am

christina wrote:Rationals can be very sensitive people, that fact alone can refute the misconception of being "insensitive". However, many may be/choose to be insensitive.....most of the time.

I am having great issue with this because of the way that I am reading the words "choose to be insensitive". From this, I gather the impression that others feel rationals don't care about other people's feelings and choose to hurt them deliberately, that is to say with intent. I don't believe most rationals set out to hurt people. What we do is value something else more at a given point than a person's feelings. Rationals can be nurturing and diplomatic when that is "the mission". But more often than not, something else is more important than feelings, and sometimes I believe other types make an unfair value-based judgment because of that.

Also, wouldn't it be up to us to say what is misconceived? How can I tell you which perceptions of you that I have are misconceptions? You know what I am getting wrong, not me.
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Re: Misconceptions: Rational

Postby Goodrum on Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:45 pm

Well said LM, this is the thing, (misconceptions and all), learning all of this. What I thought I knew, I knew very little of. It's fantastic to peel all this (life/temperament) back for what it is to everyone. I am hoping I reach a pont where I leave misconceptions at the door of ignorance.
Thanks everyone!
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