Combining the Keirseys

[Architron]

Here's a little something I was working on earlier, now edited. Suggestions and changes are encouraged, and if I'm way off, please say so. Now without further ado:

THE SYNTHESIS: Societal Temperament Complexity MKII

Due to problems, here is a link to the necessary picture I would have wanted to post:
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt11 ... ntMKII.jpg

This chart links brain types and roles to the structure of the system of society, and how it changes over time / advances. Each of the four colored boxes represents its respective brain type: Logistical, Diplomatic, Strategic, and Tactical. This is not to be confused with the specific temperaments (Guardian, Idealist, Rational, and Artisan), which are based on the dominant brain-type IQ of specific people. Really, the squares should be thought of as sectors in a society, each responsible for certain types of tasks. This is such that any person, regardless of temperament, can perform any task, but certain tasks simply come easier (less effort – more output) to their respective temperaments (Tactical – Artisan). Thus, one may assume that a specific sector is compromised largely of its corresponding temperament (e.g. Tactical sector made up of mostly Artisans).
The lines connecting the squares represent shared word usage, tool usage, and viewpoint between the brain-types. The tan lines represent word and tool use, and the brown lines represent viewpoint / method. This adds structure to the arrangement of the squares: Logisticians share concrete word use with and simple tool use with the Tacticians and the compliant viewpoint with the Diplomats, whereas Strategists share complex tool use and abstract word use with the Diplomats and the adaptive viewpoint with the Tacticians. Simple enough so far, but now we must integrate Keirsey Complexity into this arrangement.
First things first, the poles of Order and Chaos must be established. It seems only right to establish the Logisticians, or Guardians, as the “Order,” which leaves their opposites, the Strategic Rationals, as the “Chaos.” Let us explore why:

The Order of the Guardians: The Logisticians use simple tools and concrete words in a compliant manner. Thus, they are largely preoccupied with what is actual, and can be said to be strongly objective. They focus on saving and storing, or in other words, integrating objects into the system and maintaining the order of things. Guardians prize tradition and are interested in stabilizing things and keeping them the same. They prefer a static state of concrete, established ideas, and the preservation of old and traditional norms. Logisticians preserve the establishment of society by PROVIDING staple material and MONITORING standardized norms and processes.

-- Providers: [To make available; furnish; to make arrangements for supplying; etc.]
In a society, Providers are those that bring material into order, and secure this provision, such that the material becomes a staple, or a principle part of the order, and is constantly in abundance.
Protectors: These are the safeguards of the transported goods, and make sure they are in an orderly state upon departure and upon arrival. (e.g. A Secretary arranging things).
Suppliers: These are the actual couriers of the material or the service, and ensure that things get to where they must be in a timely fashion in order to maintain order. (e.g. A dentist providing timely service, or a farmer providing goods).

-- Monitors: [To watch closely for purposes of control or surveillance; to keep track of; to check continually; etc.]
Whereas Providers bring stuff in, Monitors make sure it stays in. They are those that establish norms and rules to make sure things stay organized, and discourage deviance from the order.
Inspectors: These are the clerks that confirm that everything is going according to plan and is following the establishment. Even more so, they make sure there is no deviance from the order. (e.g. An accountant double-checking his books, or a police officer on patrol).
Supervisors: These are the bosses that actually make the rules, and actively enforce them. They see to it that groups and functions remain on task, as is par the order. (e.g. A superintendent making company policies and ensuring they are followed).

The Chaos of the Rationals: The Strategists use complex tools and abstract words in an adaptive manner. Thus, they are largely preoccupied with what is possible, and can be said to be strongly subjective. They focus on building, or in other words, rearranging objects within the system and changing the order of things. Rationals prize inquiry and are interested in questioning and improving things. They prefer a dynamic state of breaking down ideas and formulating abstract and new theories and formulas. Strategists develop new facilities by re-STRUCTURING the material and re-STRATIFYING norms and processes. (NOTE: It is important to remember the context of the association of Rationals with chaos. One can easily claim that Rationals provide order in a system because of creating or building things. One must note that this reference does not pertain to the physical structuring or stratifying of material [e.g. parts into a whole], but is more concerned with the structure of society [e.g. ceaseless inquiry and desire to improve]. One must remember that Rationals have little care for established norms and traditions and strategic tasks generally dismantle the established order and rearrange a new one.)

-- Structurers: [to give a structure, organization, or arrangement to; construct a systematic framework for; etc.]
In a society, these inquirers ask many questions. In seeking maximum efficiency, they have a strong desire to improve (change) how things are built and/or structured. Thus, they constantly break down the order of things and change them to what they perceive as better (more efficient).
Designers: These are the principle re-arrangers of material, and, working within the abstract, re-design it to have a new structure, with little or no concern for old norms or traditions. (e.g. An architect dreaming up a design for a new building, or a programmer arranging sequences of code).
Engineers: These are the re-structerers of objects, and again, working within the abstract, re-arrange things in order to implement new (non-traditional) functions. (e.g. An engineer developing a new motor, or an inventor creating new devices).

-- Stratifiers: [To arrange or separate into castes, classes, or social levels; to separate into a sequence of graded status levels, etc.]
Whereas the Structurers create new plans and ideas, the Stratifiers actually implement them. They are those that establish new and specific orders (fit to the situation, with no concern for tradition), and ensure that they are carried out properly.
Planners: These are the contingency planners of processes. They develop new strategies and reformulate actions for how to carry things out precisely fitted to the situation at hand, with no regard for old policy. (e.g. An executive facilitating the merger of two companies).
Mobilizers: These are the facilitators of new stages and the bringers of development. They assemble all of the new structures and strategies and re-organize activities to actually make them happen. (e.g. A general implementing a new strategy on the battlefield).

(NOTE: Again I stress the importance of perspective, for many of the strategic jobs can be seen as quite orderly. This is in fact the case, as chaos has an implied order of its own, outside that of the actual order. This is the case with Rationals and Guardians, where both have a seeming order, but the latter’s being far more obvious and prizing stability and tradition, while the former being a bit more abstract with no qualm about breaking any norms, and prizing change more than anything.)

With the easy part out of the way, we must move on to integrating “Replication,” or the transposition of chaos into order, and “Dissipation,” the change of order into chaos. This is a bit harder to fathom, given the relative ambiguity of the processes at hand (compared to “ordered” vs “disordered”). The Tacticians, or Artisans, represent the replication in the system, for they are those that transpose the complex / abstract into the simple / concrete, and change ideas into objects. The Diplomatic Idealists represent the dissipation in the system, for they turn the concrete / simple into the abstract / complex, being able to transform objects into ideas.

The Replication of the Artisans: Tacticians use simple tools and concrete words in an adaptive manner. Tactical tasks are those that focus on handling, and are often those that turn a subject into an object. Adapting to chaos easily, Artisans create something simple and orderly, something that is observable and can be explained with concrete words. (e.g. Paint --> picture, guitar --> music, plan --> advertisement, blueprint --> building). Effectively, Artisans are able to transpose what is imagined (subjective) into what is actual (objective). This shift from chaos into order can be seen in their desire to make an impression or to have an impact, and create a culture or a following from an idea. They aspire to inspire, or to be followed in their craft, thus creating an order. Tacticians replicate operations by IMPROVISING processes and EXPEDIATING functions.

-- Improvisers: [to compose and perform or deliver without previous preparation; extemporize; etc.]
The word itself connotates a creation of something from nothing, or a creation of order from disorder. In a society, these individuals are the creators and presenters of fine art, and are perfect examples of transforming an idea into an observable object.
Composers: These are the combiners of elements into concrete forms (where their strategic cousins combine elements into abstract forms). They create sensually appealing objects, and handle them with expertise. (e.g. A musician composing a song, or a chef creating a cake).
Performers: These are the executors of the abstract idea. These are those that bring things into form, render, accomplish, and complete. (e.g. An actor portraying a character).

-- Expeditors: [to hasten; to hurry; to accelerate; etc]
Whereas the Improvisers are the creators of objects out of ideas, the Expeditors create processes out of the same. These individuals hone and develop theoretical skills and methods to observable results.
Crafters: These are the manifestations of skill and proficiency, and working with utmost dexterity, bring about the concrete, observable action of ability. (e.g. A professional skateboarder, a professional fighter, or a professional gamer).
Promoter: These are the facilitators of observable development (whereas their strategic cousins bring about abstract development). They charm and coax their way into concrete results. (e.g. A politician bending a vote in his favor, or a mogul selling a clothing line).

The Dissipation of the Idealists: Diplomats use complex tools and abstract words in a compliant manner. Diplomatic tasks are those that focus on nurturing, and are often those that turn an object into a subject. Complying with order, Idealists describe something complex, something that is imagined and explained with abstract words. (e.g. Improve school, change government, improve relationships, change interactions). Generally, Idealists dream of how to better things, and effectively transpose what is actual (objective) into what is possible (subjective). Another example is their use of the metaphor, where words use the real to describe the imagined. This shift from order into chaos can also be seen in their desire to be themselves, break away, and be different from the rest. They aspire to be unique, or to generate a movement away from the norm into the ever-bright future, thus creating relative chaos. Diplomats dissipate mediations by INTERCEDING in processes and MENTORING functions.

-- Interceders: [to act or interpose in behalf of someone in difficulty or trouble, as by pleading or petition; to intervene; etc.]
In a society, these are the true mediators, and they bring about compromise. “But wait a minute, isn’t that the creation of order?” Quite the contrary, you see, an intercession implies a break in the order, and the compromise represents a change in the establishment. Verily, mediators upset the order, and quite by definition, bring about relative chaos.
Conciliators: They are the placators of the desolate present. All Diplomats look towards the future, and Conciliators see things now as bad and in dire need of improvement, so they look forward in an optimistic manner, hoping to change how things are in the present. (e.g. A romantic poet metaphorically speaking about the maladies of current times).
Advocators: These are the supporters, and eagerly speak or write in favor of something, usually a proposed change. Where Conciliators focus more on the trouble of the present when seeking change, Advocators look more to the promise of the future for the same. (e.g. A philosopher postulating on the improvement of culture and society).

-- Mentors: [to advise; to guide; to serve as a trusted teacher; to act as a sponsor or supporter; etc.]
These individuals are not so focused on mediation as they are on actual changing, shaping, or molding of something into another (in this case, into abstract ideas). Where the Interceders propose changes and dream about improved subjects, the Mentors tamper with the processes involved, tending to break away from the standardized needs and focus on the individual ones.
Advisors: These are the givers of advice and the recommenders of change. They generally seek improvement in others, and offer their two cents on how it should be done. Like the Conciliators, they see the problems of the present, but they seek to deviate from them through counseling. (e.g. A school counselor advising struggling students, or a consultant helping to change some of the norms of his clients).
Educators: These are the foundational teachers of the new. They provide new knowledge to their students, and foster the development of innate abilities within them. Whereas the Advisors recommend change, the Educators demand it. (e.g. A teacher helping students realize their potential through instruction).

(NOTE: I find it necessary to extrapolate on the relative differences between the chaos of the Rationals and the shift to chaos (dissipation) of the Idealists. Strategists tend to reside only in the abstract world of ideas and theories, paying little attention to how things are now, and focusing more on how things could possibly be. This implies the complete opposite of the Guardian order, which focuses only on how things are now. Diplomats see how things are now, and want to change them into how they could be (or should be). They are the representatives of the transposition of the objective into the subjective, and thus, facilitate the dissipation of order into chaos. This is opposite of the Tacticians, who see how things could be, and work to transpose them into the physical, observable world.)

“But why,” you may ask, “why do the arrows point in this direction? Is it not possible to have them moving the other way?” What I will say is that this entire synthesis is largely a matter of interpretation and perspective. Sure, one can say that through their general random, spontaneous nature, Artisans should be seen as the dissipation; and in their constructive, Diplomatic, mediating nature, Idealists should be labeled as the replicating bringers of order. Again I stress perspective. While you can interpret all the types a number of ways, you must remember that I base this on a societal scale, interested in the change in the system of society (with each colored square representing sectors and tasks, not people). In this regard, the viewpoint / method are what bring about the words / tools. One cannot make compliance or adaptation, one must be compliant or adaptive to achieve ends. Furthermore, Tacticians cannot adapt to order, as order is such that it must be complied with. In addition, they are the sensual exciters of our society, they are the artists that bring emotion into an observable plane (where one can see, hear, taste, smell, or touch it). Likewise, Diplomats cannot comply with chaos, as chaos is such that it must be adapted to. Verily, they have little interest in handling what is actual, and would rather spend their time dreaming or postulating on the possible. Rather than making something objective or observable, Idealists tend to complicate things (with the use of the metaphor), and make something subjective and imagined. They are the prophets and dreamers of society, enthusing us to dream with them of what is possible, “what things would be like if…,” and infinite other “what ifs.”
I must admit I have not studied Keirsey Complexity nearly as intently as I have Keirsey Temperament. It is my hope that what I presented is at least slightly accurate in terms of the former. To elaborate a bit more, in pertaining to that theory, there must exist a separate system both above and below the one described. Below this system, within its “edge of order,” lies the complex system of the individual. Since no one person has just one single brain type and performs one single task, a similar diagram can be constructed for the individual scale, with the squares representing brain-type proficiency (IQ) and how and what sorts of tasks are accomplished. Above the original system then, would be the metasociety, in the “edge of order” of which the former would reside. This system would be the society of society, and would factor in far more than just tasks and sectors. Granted, again, I may be wrong in the specifics of this regard, but it seems to make wonderful sense as a generality. Corrections would be appreciated.
Now as if this wasn’t long enough already, allow me to summarize this lovely theory with the infamous reference to the stone-age clansmen tribes and the epitome of temperament therein. Enjoy:

Once upon a time, there was a tribe. This tribe was extremely average in its composition, having only 20 members, 10 being ware-gatherers, eight being prize-hunters, and having only one shaman and one tool-maker. Also pertaining to the relative extremity of its moderate nature, its food and materiel supply was rather scarce, allowing the maintenance of only about 20 members. The diet included mostly herbs, roots, mushrooms, and berries; as well as the occasional rodent the hunters managed to subdue with sticks and stones.
Anyway, come one cloudy day, as the tribe was eating, the shaman hopped up on top of a rock and, with his elaborate ornamental disguise, yelled and preached and prophesized of how the Spirit of the Earth came to him in a dream. The Earth promised that, with enough belief and dedication, the tribe will come into more quantities and qualities of food; even going so far as to tantalite the tribesmen with stories of eating the great beasts of the plains! Needless to say, this cheered the tribe up, but the majority, being the sensible types they are, regarded much of it as poppycock. One member was intrigued, however, and that was the tool-maker.
Postulating and inquiring ceaselessly about the possibility of killing such large beasts and eating them, the tool-maker paced around and thought many abstract thoughts. This period of planning took a great deal of time, but it was not in vain, for sure enough, one day, the tool-maker revealed his newest invention to the tribe: a stick with a sharp stone attached to the end.
“Blasphemy!” yelled the gatherers, “That is dangerous. Let us stick to what we know.” The shaman yelled profusely about the salvation that will be brought with this “spear” while the hunters were absolutely fascinated and quite excited. After teaching them how to use the spear, as well as how to make it, the tool-maker grew quite bored with it, and retired back into thinking, planning, and designing. (And, needless to say, soon after engineered a bow-and-arrow mechanism, among other things.)
As the hunters began using this spear and growing extremely proficient at it, many of them told stories and wove tales about the majesty of their new skill in hunting that excited the rest of the tribe. It didn’t take very long for their ability in the handling of such a tool to reach unprecedented heights, and one day, the hunting party came back with the unbelievable news of a slain beast with enough meat to feed the entire tribe for days!
The tribe rushed over to investigate, and surely it was so, thanks to the invention of the spear. These kills became increasingly common, but the gatherers were rather disgruntled at the fact that a good portion of the meat rotted before it could be eaten, as well as the rather frequent “stabbing accidents” that befell the hunters. It wasn’t long before these gatherers developed efficient gathering and storing methods for the meat, such as specific containers and salt to preserve it for longer periods of time. In addition, they were not slow in implementing a “standardized spear policy,” which did, in fact, decrease the accidents and increase overall hunting efficiency. In addition, many began scribbling down the history of the tribe and the new standardizations therein.
Needless to say, the tribe grew. With the influx of more members combined with the use of the spear, the proficiency of the hunters, and the efficiency of the storage, the amounts of food were able to sustain an exponential number of more members. However, it was not long before the herds began to be over hunted, and the cumbersome task of relocating the entire tribe to keep up with the movements of other herds became almost unbearable. Hunger soon began to set in again.
The shamans were not pleased. Together, they partook in spiritual exploration to look for answers in dreams. Coming to a startling pinnacle of nigh-insanity, they rounded up the tribe and spoke of the Spirit of the Earth telling them to quit killing their brother animals, and instead reaping the bounty of the forests and fields. They preached their dreams of an infinite number of resources and foodstuffs emerging from the soil at their feet, just as the Earth promised. Again, the tribe was enthused, but most of them returned to their serious business. The tool-makers rushed to their thinking places to formulate ideas.
It wasn’t long until the tool-makers began collaborating and eventually came upon a startling idea. Combining the equation “seed + soil + water + sunlight = plant,” with the hypothesis of “certain plants make food,” and a vast number of calculations and proportions of how much to eat and how much to plant again, they created agriculture.
The hunters built farms and told tales.
The gatherers farmed and stabilized.
The tribe grew.
The shaman preached.
The tool-makers invented.
The hunters utilized.
The gatherers integrated.
The clan grew.
The Idealists nurtured.
The Rationals built.
The Artisans handled.
The Guardians saved.

Rinse and repeat until you get today’s society, still following the same general process.

P.S. I’ll take my Nobel Prize now.

[jango101]

haha how creative AND correct thanks for the info but there also the invidual exeptions like the tool makers helping out hunting,or the shamen helping makeing the tools ect.
but the whole order chaos\order thing i have a few things to say
idealists heal conflict and lift sprits
artisans break rules and try the new ideas
gardians keep tradion and peace
rationals make ideas and creat them

now those are my litle idealistic thoughts

idealist+guardians=peace\order
rationals+artisans=chaos\new order
both of those together=new ideas,high sprits,order,peace ect. in the end we need all four. no matter which way you look at it

[fuzzynavelnot21]

Great job combining the two thoughts. I'll of course read again, but at first read, I didn't see anything I disagreed with. I think its nice to have the breakdown, in a simple explanation, of how exactly each type's qualities are manifest in every day life.

[SunPath]

Architron:

Logisticians share concrete word use with the Tacticians and simple tool use with the Diplomats, whereas Strategists share complex tool use with the Tacticians and abstract word use with the Diplomats

This is inaccurate according to Brains and Careers. On page 55 it is shown that Guardians (Logisticians) and Artisans (Tacticians) have simple tools in common (as well as concrete language), and Rationals (Strategists) and Idealists (Diplomats) have complex tools in common (as well as abstract language).

Also, I am curious about the rest of your idea. I haven't read it all. I tried to blow up the image of your system, but couldn't find a way to do so. Will you post a link with a larger image?

[ENFP123]

Architron:

Logisticians share concrete word use with the Tacticians and simple tool use with the Diplomats, whereas Strategists share complex tool use with the Tacticians and abstract word use with the Diplomats

This is inaccurate according to Brains and Careers. On page 55 it is shown that Guardians (Logisticians) and Artisans (Tacticians) have simple tools in common (as well as concrete language), and Rationals (Strategists) and Idealists (Diplomats) have complex tools in common (as well as abstract language).

yep

The dichotomy you were looking for is idealist+rationals = distant goals+complex tools, idealists+gaurdians = compliant, rationals+artisans = adaptive, artisans+gaurdians = simple tools+near by goals.

[Architron]

So it does.
Very well, disregard the above post.


EDIT: Fixed

[SunPath]

You are not throwing out the entire idea I hope! I have read some of it, and found it interesting. You certainly have a good grasp of the essentials of KTT.

[ENFP123]

Definately still want to keep the aspect of language, that is an important function but it is integrated within the idea of complex and simple tool usage

[Architron]

Yeah, I would like to salvage most of it, and I'm sure I can, but that would require work, and I'm getting bored of this repetition. My mind is wandering to distant places in search of new projects.

I'm sure I'll come back to it later. Thank you for the responses by the way.

[SunPath]

I just finished reading your entire post, and let me add,

I loved your story. You are a Gifted Rational, Architron. I am impressed.