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Temperament and mortality

Postby zalman on Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:54 pm

http://neuroskeptic.blogspot.com/2012/01/take-your-placebos-or-die.html?m=1

First thing I thought of: do Guardians statistically have a longer average life span than other temperaments?
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Re: Temperament and mortality

Postby brian423 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:27 pm

Slightly off topic, I have questions about the placebo effect. Can't people taste the sugar in sugar pills? If so, doesn't this give them away as placebos?
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Re: Temperament and mortality

Postby Quinta on Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:40 am

To Brian. I guess the sugarpills are coated, so even the doctor won't tell the difference in trials.


Then I have been thinking the same. When I see old and healthy people, they seem to have a regular lifestyle, satisfied with their habitual going about the daily details.

So, it may be learned. I don't think my parents are Guardians. My father may be a Crafter or some Rational, my mom is most certainly an Idealist, sensitive to harmonious relationships as she is.

Still they have developed this regular lifestyle, that seems to keep them healthy.
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Re: Temperament and mortality

Postby keirsey on Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:04 am

zalman wrote:http://neuroskeptic.blogspot.com/2012/01/take-your-placebos-or-die.html?m=1

First thing I thought of: do Guardians statistically have a longer average life span than other temperaments?


I highly suspect it too. Except for my parents ( a Rational and Idealist) most of their few surviving friends (including
The only still married couple: Guardians) are Guardians. Anecdotal to be sure, maybe some day the research community could catch on.
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Re: Temperament and mortality

Postby Narnia51483 on Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:28 pm

I would bet the same thing. My Supervisor father is now 64 but seems much more likea 45 year old. He takes excellent care of himself, walking 2-3 times a day, and long distances. He also has a total gym he works out on religiously. He eats more fruits and vegetables than anyone else I know.
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Re: Temperament and mortality

Postby christina on Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:25 pm

I'm not sure I would enjoy old age......I wouldn't be able to move around as much as I'd like to :?

Anywhoo.....statistically speaking, wouldn't they live longer than average simply because there is more of them in the population?
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Re: Temperament and mortality

Postby christina on Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:30 pm

oh, wait, nevermind :D :oops:
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Re: Temperament and mortality

Postby christina on Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:35 pm

Welll.....idk..... they could take representative samples of who are similar people (lifestyle/culture/interests/education/SES/etc) and divide them into groups according to temperament and see how the percentage of "long lifers" vs "early mortality-ers" in each temperament group compares......that's simplified, yes......because it's tricky!

I'm sure they're have already been similar studies......maybe they could track down some of those long-lifers and give them a KTT Quiz. That should be "easy" enough, lol. Short and sweet, quick and dirty :lol:
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Re: Temperament and mortality

Postby Al3322 on Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:36 pm

Guardian temperament can work both ways. My parents were both Guardians. My father died one month before his 98th birthday. He always took care of himself and followed (sometimes when they were pretty silly) doctor’s orders, went for regular checkups, quit smoking when he was 40; and, in general, did all the things that you are supposed to do.

My mother, on the other hand, refused to go to the doctor, did not believe that a traditional (southern) diet was bad, maintained an old family tradition of not telling anyone if something was wrong, and did not follow any advice from doctors that were younger than her. She died at age 78.
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Re: Temperament and mortality

Postby MarmieDearest on Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:04 pm

Guardians may have a longer lifespan, on average, because of their caution and such.

However, let's say a Guardian has bad habits. And they follow those habits, because Guardians like their routines, and they could be ones unlikely to give up unhealthy eating habits or even a smoking habit for something that seems too new or foreign. In that case, probably not so much. Especially if they live in a culture where eating fatty food or smoking cigarettes is considered the normal thing everybody does.

I think with Artisans it's a crapshoot: you have your Artisans who die young because of risky behavior, and the ones who live very long lives because of their sheer vitality for life, their optimism, their interest in staying physically and even sexually active as they age, and the fact that they might be open to new physical practices, like the trendy new way to work out, or they might be willing to adventure out and start eating a healthier cuisine from an interesting foreign land.

Dunno about Idealists and Rationals in regards to this idea. Would either type be likely to simply neglect their body? Something along those lines?
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