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Re: New member - ENFJ, Teacher - Managing details

Postby christina on Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:20 pm

Hi :D Yes, welcome >:D<


I hope you find this site as resourceful and entertaining as I do :lol: I came for the theory but stayed to study the peoples and find new viewpoints in conversations! :lol: etc etc etc.

First--I'm not sure what you mean by linking details up with the big picture?
Second--I struggle with logisitical details; I really hate thinking about them :oops: :x "Little things" like keeping commodities stocked around the house does not come easy! :o Those kinds of "details" often "slip through the cracks" for me and we sometimes have that odd day where we have no shampoo in the house. So, basically, what I'm saying is if I don't think to put it on a list or something and then forget to get it while I'm a the store, the shampoo isn't replaced until we actually run out and it's a problem >:d< :roll:
Third--I'm not a big picture kind of gal, I'm not sure I understand what a "big picture" would be. I understand there are cliche expressions for it....liking climbing to a higher elevation and observing the far reaching landscape versus what the landscape looks like being on foot on the ground. For me, I'm not sure I could link up the two differing perspectives. My "middle ground" would be to take an area of land with definite limits and study the details until the entire area becomes familiar and thereafter I would have both a "big picture" and a "small picture" image. Or I suppose "middle ground" could be viewed as "literal" and I would sit in tree tops where I'd have the option of looking outward AND looking down to see everything below. My husband is a big-picture guy and sometimes includes "details" when they are necessary for a far reaching objective, but likewise, he misses some of those details like I do when they are not relevant. In his case, I would say that they aren't that relevant, necessary, important afterall :P
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Re: New member - ENFJ, Teacher - Managing details

Postby Goodrum on Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:00 pm

Welcome Spicegirl. :D

On the detail, I sort of get a balance of the things I want, and choose to do, delegate that which can be, and some detail is actually interesting and enjoyable in it's itsy finickyism, so there is motivation there.

Big picture stuff is nice, and there is also fun bringing it into effect, realisation.

I would say for me, doing the things I love and loving the things I do, puts a kick and jump in my step-(motivation is powerful), and whatever it takes to do, bring into fruition, achieve, the doing, creating is fun, so if at some stage I have some t's to cross and i's to dot that's okay. But delegation is useful, I rarely want to be involved in a project 110%, meaning in a micro-managing sense, it's more a case of; if I'm the smartest person in the room then something is wrong. :D

So, summary of that is, it depends, and finding balance, and creating more efficient ways to get things done. But quite happy to engage in detail too.
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Re: New member - ENFJ, Teacher - Managing details

Postby DSM on Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:00 pm

spicegirl wrote:Hi there


Good Night! (It's currently nighttime as i write this...)

spicegirl wrote:Just started reading "Please Understand Me."


Which one, | or ||?

spicegirl wrote:I am an Idealist, ENFJ, Teacher.


I think i have only meet one Teacher face to face...
And she was strangely enough my art teacher.

spicegirl wrote:I am pretty organized overall


Mind lending those organization abilitys to me for, say;
One or two hours? :D

Lastly:

WELCOME!!!
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Re: New member - ENFJ, Teacher - Managing details

Postby stellarrenegade on Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:38 pm

Christina, YES!! I suuuck at logistical details, it's just so hard to focus on them. My Protector can run circles around me in the logistical department. I even suck at remembering names and monumental events in peoples' lives if they're not particularly important to me. I do have a really amazing name database in my brain but it tends to delete the entries that don't appear useful in some way anymore. :lol:

But anyway, I lose track of absolutely everything only to save the day at the last second. She recently complimented me on my mission impossible skills, haha (my wording), saying I'm amazing at that. She just won like a thousand hearts floating her way when she said that. :mrgreen: >:L<

On the other hand, I run circles around her in problem-solving (she gives up way too fast ;)) and analyzing style and differentiating contrasting varieties of things.
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Re: New member - ENFJ, Teacher - Managing details

Postby Looking4theBestNU on Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:26 pm

Hello and welcome aboard >:Y!< !! This is a fabulous site to learn more about temperament and share your ideas. Discovering studies on temperament was truly a revelation for me and has provided me with years of fascinating insights into people.


Detail-orientation was an issue for me as a teen but I quickly learned that small details can make a world of difference in how others perceive me. Now, the details seem to be already included in what I am imagining. I like to turn what I am thinking about into reality and without the details I wouldn't be satisfied with my work. However, I have a tendency towards perfectionism that I didn't used to have. It's a curse in itself.


Yesss! Another Teacher! Let's have a Teacher ORGY!!! >:Y!< :evil: :NF: :NF: :NF: :mrgreen:

Another hot Teacher here also has a Crafter hubbie: Lookin'.
I'm not sure what it is about those STPs that get me going. I think it's their "delicious mysteriousness" >:L< .
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Re: New member - ENFJ, Teacher - Managing details

Postby Goodrum on Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:37 pm

Re/ the construction, (and it does depend what that involves, maybe a house, or units, duplex etc), but with single house on a block, the entire requirements for that build are worked out, (with input of builder), prior to signing the final contract, I include everything, it becomes a turnkey job, by the finish, (apart from landscaping), a person should be able to walk in and it's all set up as a residence.

There are several benefits to this, one is, the contract final costing doesn't alter, it's a known and contracted price.

Two, I'm not being bothered with calls about paint color, door knob handles, carpet/tile colors etc...it's a few hours with the builder-prior to the contract signed, all the detail is nutted out and organised.

The resulting other advantage to that is I'm freeing up my time, (what is your time worth?) to pull together and create deals, not micro-managing something already (that should be done).

That only applies to reasonably closeby builds, further out, interstate and o/s stuff I have a Project Manager, that's her specialty-but I do check up on sites too.

I very early on, (through inexperience and necessity) gathered up a network of specialists in their field, so, for example I have an accountant, but make sure I find out how she wants the paperwork handled/filed/stacked, that's beneficial for both of us. So that is something "I" consider detail, but it's sort of bigpicture detail organising.
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Re: New member - ENFJ, Teacher - Managing details

Postby Jeffster on Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:44 pm

Looking4theBestNU wrote:I'm not sure what it is about those STPs that get me going. I think it's their "delicious mysteriousness" >:L< .


SFPs are more delicious. 8-)
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Re: New member - ENFJ, Teacher - Managing details

Postby stellarrenegade on Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:39 pm

Jeffster wrote:
Looking4theBestNU wrote:I'm not sure what it is about those STPs that get me going. I think it's their "delicious mysteriousness" >:L< .


SFPs are more delicious. 8-)

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Re: New member - ENFJ, Teacher - Managing details

Postby shytiger on Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:21 am

Looking4theBestNU wrote:I'm not sure what it is about those STPs that get me going. I think it's their "delicious mysteriousness" >:L< .


I would just go with all-around deliciousness :D .
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Re: New member - ENFJ, Teacher - Managing details

Postby Jeffster on Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:27 am

stellarrenegade wrote:
Jeffster wrote:
Looking4theBestNU wrote:I'm not sure what it is about those STPs that get me going. I think it's their "delicious mysteriousness" >:L< .


SFPs are more delicious. 8-)

You're trying too hard, bro. Leave the promoting to us Promoters. ;)


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