THE PREMISE

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Re: THE PREMISE

Postby Quinta on Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:11 am

Thank you.

I was wondering about

The Tacticians, or Artisans, represent the replication in the system, for they are those that transpose the complex / abstract into the simple / concrete, and change ideas into objects. The Diplomatic Idealists represent the dissipation in the system, for they turn the concrete / simple into the abstract / complex, being able to transform objects into ideas.


until I read how you meant it would be done. Like building from a plan or playing music from notes. I just wonder if Artisans are that interested in the theoretical descriptions or if they just plunge into it, looking at models, seeing others do something that excites them. As far as I understand the DVD* on temperaments, making concrete samples out of complex ideas is Rational work.

*"PLEASE UNDERSTAND ME Character & temperament types, by David Keirsey
. a mania for drawing the shapes of things.. published a universe of designs.. all I have done before the the age of 70 is not .. At 90 I shall have cut my way deeply into the mystery of life .. At 110, everything I create.. will jump to life ..
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Re: THE PREMISE

Postby Earl on Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:36 pm

fuzzynavelnot21 wrote:Well, just to clarify on the 'psycho babble' term... I think Jeffster, our Composer Artisan, first used the term. And Shay has since put it in her signature. I was quoting from that.

Sorry I'm not being clear. I find that term hilarious! It's so true and totally awesome! So you'll have to excuse me when I use it every time I go off on a particularly crazy tangent.
It's just that AWESOME :lol: :lol: ;) !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: THE PREMISE

Postby Quinta on Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:42 pm

You guys seem to feel insane when you actually write well. :?
. a mania for drawing the shapes of things.. published a universe of designs.. all I have done before the the age of 70 is not .. At 90 I shall have cut my way deeply into the mystery of life .. At 110, everything I create.. will jump to life ..
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Re: THE PREMISE

Postby fuzzynavelnot21 on Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:15 am

hahahahaha, yea. I think its even more that we feel for once, not insane, when someone else seems to understand our 'psycho babble'.
The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed.-- Carl Jung
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Re: THE PREMISE

Postby aubigmiller on Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:18 pm

To the Premise:

I a Diplomatic enterprising intiator (DEI, maybe?) Or a Preemptive Initiator with a Diplomatic Mind, think this:

We will always struggle to define the role we play socially, as said in Brains and Careers.
The Univers abhors a vacuum.
Infinity makes possible the notion that all and none are the centre of the universe
These can be assumed as givens
So every thought, inclination, action, everything, everything, everything,
always is in reference to what our roles and methods are.
Even for the same role and method people the universe is still a different one to the other
We might think we can be objective, but that is a lie
Even our objectivity is only of our subjective view.
The only true objective is the infinite, never ending compilataions of all the universes with all the dimension, with all the all
Any one thinking otherwise, needs to examine themselves
well i even as i say these things, I am attempting to speak of the objective as if I know it and know one else does. But owing to what I just said,
I am limited myself


and the circle has no sides
Are teachers really mean?Maybe
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