Who was the worst?: Hitler, Mao, Stalin

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Re: Who was the worst?: Hitler, Mao, Stalin

Postby fuzzynavelnot21 on Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:48 pm

He 'purified' it.
The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed.-- Carl Jung
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Re: Who was the worst?: Hitler, Mao, Stalin

Postby ENFP123 on Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:27 pm

Yah, his goal was definately to have global order
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Re: Who was the worst?: Hitler, Mao, Stalin

Postby SunPath on Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:57 pm

It's true that Idealists are all about harmony, integration, unity. And, especially, the Conciliator Idealist.

"To the INFP, healing means mending those divisions that plague one's private life and one's relationships. It means treating oneself and relating to others in a conciliatory manner, helping to restore lost unity, integrity, or what INFPs call "oneness." These Healers present a tranquil and noticeably pleasant face to the world, but while to all apearances they might seem gentle and easy-going, on the inside they are anything but serene, having a capacity for caring not usually found in other types. Healers care deeply--passionately--about a few special persons or a favorite cause, and their fervent aim is to bring peace to the world and wholeness to themselves and their loved ones." *

But the Healer is all about purity too. In Portraits of Temperament it is said that "their totem deity is Hygia, god of Health, after whom they seem to have fashioned themselves....some must atone for...evil they have been taught to believe is in them, must somehow sacrifice. With this project of undoing comes a certain fascination with the problem (peculiar to introverted Healers) of good and evil, sacred and profane, pure and sullied, virginal and pregnant. They are drawn toward purity, but they continuously look over their shoulder for the violation that stalks them." ^

Also, they "hear a calling to go forth into the world to help others, and they seem ready to make the personal sacrifices involved in responding to that call, even if it means asking their loved ones to do likewise....This almost preconcious conviction that pleasure must be paid for with pain can cause a sense of uneasiness in INFPs when they marry; they may feel they must be ever-vigilant against invasion, and can therefore have trouble relaxing in the happiness of mating." ^^


So, with all this in mind, I make this comment: it is possible for an Idealist, and especially a Conciliator, to do what Hitler did, if he saw the Jews and others as a "plague" that caused "divisions," and purity as a means to unity. He would passionately defend his ideals against "invasion," his "fervent aim to bring peace to the world and wholeness to loved ones," and being willing to "make personal sacrifices and asking loved ones to do likewise." 'Yes, we have to rid the world of many undesirables, but this is all for the good of humanity! These sacrifices must be made, in the name of what is good.'

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*(Please Understand Me II, page 157-158)

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^^Please Understand Me II, page 160
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Re: Who was the worst?: Hitler, Mao, Stalin

Postby Quinta on Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:47 pm

Thanks Angela, for a description of the Healer's inner drives. I can see that it can fit to Hitler, but I need more evidence for others who don't know the theory as well. I'm trying to find a thorough description of Hitler as a Healer. (It would take too long to sort through all suggestions on Google. I even get the suggestion that I have mistyped INFO instead of INFP :roll: )

Some point out that he was far more than a dreamer. He was active. Yet his dreams were always behind his actions. He didn't do things without it having a relation to his dream.
. a mania for drawing the shapes of things.. published a universe of designs.. all I have done before the the age of 70 is not .. At 90 I shall have cut my way deeply into the mystery of life .. At 110, everything I create.. will jump to life ..
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Re: Who was the worst?: Hitler, Mao, Stalin

Postby Malleeman on Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:14 am

I came across these YouTube clips of Hitler's private videos where they used technology to determine what he was saying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8iZ28YlGrU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtJk1cf5Rjs
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