Observe an Inventor Rational: Nathan Myhrvold

[ENFP123]

I saw a TED video where he demonstrates a mosquito zapping lazer. Instantly thought Inventor.

[ENFP123]

Right here in Bellevue! Nooo waaaay

[Goodrum]

It's just hit me, the inventor is to architect as what champions are to healers, (okay i know i am a little slow on the uptake! ) but that is freak'n amazing
the puppy dogs of science.
brilliant people with deep thoughts eg Einstein and then, the people inspired by experiment. Look at how we have been put together!!!! we compliment each other, he is relatively bounding all over the place, many things, and yet they share the "arrogance of science" because they must, to be whom they are, they must be...this is so amazing, so beautiful, I am going to think about this all day.

Ha ha a 2000 page cookbook!

[jwetmore]

Very interesting guy.

Near the end of his Microsoft tenure he wrote periodic memos with his thoughts on big issues.

They make fascinating reading. Sorry I don't have a source, but I would come upon them from time to time.

I'd say it's pretty clear from his writing that he's an Inventor.

[stellarrenegade]

His philosophy is exactly mine, that you just need to ask the right question and work toward the solution. I've often thought I was crazy for doing that. Everybody tells me, "you need to know how you're going to solve it before you can solve it!" I don't know how I'm going to solve it till I sit down and solve it. Shytigress says I'm like Scotty from Star Trek.

Pffft, that's not even effective. Sounds like a Supervisor probably said that.

@CB, I can't specialize either. I never will. Like he says, "why do you have to choose?"

Exactly. I want to taste everything, to have a little of every experience there is in life (and beaucoup amount of the best ones ), and sometimes a lot of the time this gets me in trouble. In some ways it's not possible to go down every road of experience, so you have to choose. I HATE that. Not only because I can't have it all, but because I have an extremely hard time choosing, especially as I don't know what things may come.

[stellarrenegade]

Right here in Bellevue! Nooo waaaay

Let's go harass him, Aleksey!

[shytiger]

Pffft, that's not even effective. Sounds like a Supervisor probably said that.

Or any Guardian. For Guardians, problem solving is all about applying received wisdom. You are shown or told how to do something and you do it. You come up with a plan to solve something and you apply that plan. I once worked in a computer lab as a lab monitor. One of the printers broke as somebody was trying to use it. I started fiddling with it and the person says, "go and ask somebody else. You obviously don't know what you're doing." I was furious. I marched out of the lab and dumped him on a coworker. People don't really understand (1) yes, I don't know what I'm doing and (2) I'm going to solve it anyway.

[stellarrenegade]

That's funny. It makes me kinda angry, too. I'm often pretty stubborn about trying to figure gadgets and programs out. Or if it seems too complicated I'll lose my patience and let someone else take over. I have no issue having things figured out for me sometimes, or even cheating at the solution. It's doing the thing that I enjoy.

Anyway, I said Supervisor because saying that is defining a role, or at least can be.

[jwetmore]

For Guardians, problem solving is all about applying received wisdom.

Guardians don't solve problems, at least not problems that haven't been solved before. Guardians may identify or label problems, but in my experience they will only follow steps that have been taught to them, regardless of he specific characterisitics of the difficulty facing them.

I work in a Guardian rich environment, and I think the cliche about insanity being doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results was written about Guardians.

When studying, for or taking, the examination to become a prfoessional engineer, the Guardian approasch is to look through their study guide (it is an open book test) and look for a sample problem with a similar appearance and substitute the variable in the test problem for the variables in the sample problem.

[stellarrenegade]

For Guardians, problem solving is all about applying received wisdom.

Guardians don't solve problems, at least not problems that haven't been solved before. Guardians may identify or label problems, but in my experience they will only follow steps that have been taught to them, regardless of he specific characterisitics of the difficulty facing them.

I work in a Guardian rich environment, and I think the cliche about insanity being doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results was written about Guardians.

When studying, for or taking, the examination to become a prfoessional engineer, the Guardian approasch is to look through their study guide (it is an open book test) and look for a sample problem with a similar appearance and substitute the variable in the test problem for the variables in the sample problem.

My Guardian is really good at coming through in a strained situation, but usually because she already has the resources at her disposal due to naturally being a prepared type of person, for instance, always bringing snacks. Guardians may have a set selection of solutions, but usually it's a very wide range. I've found, at least from observing her, that they have a particular talent for putting together their various elements of readiness and logistical know-how in whatever fashions are necessary at the time.

But when it comes to new types of problems, yes, I agree. They're often at a loss to know what to think about something they've never encountered. That's where I step in and think up a few novel solutions in rapid-fire succession. I'm bored with the tired same ol', same ol', and will NOT do the most obvious or standard - pick up my clothes, or make sure I submitted a form. She will and thinks I'm rather silly for not being thorough, although I don't work off the same basis. She doesn't get why for the most part, I don't like being safe, and would rather create a crisis that I have to troubleshoot at the last minute than be bored to tears doing things the regular old way.

Anyways, I can see how Rationals would be the exact opposite of Guardians, although not perfect mates. Rationals need to think up complex solutions, because it's a part of their nature, and in my experience sometimes Rationals even try to either make the solution more complex than it is or figure out a way to take the whole thing apart so they can rebuild it all over again.* This would obviously frustrate the Guardian to the point of insanity, hence why it would make the most sense for them to be paired up with an Artisan who only solves problems as they come up, and takes it easy, and may I add extremely easy, when the ship is even keel, rising into action as soon as a crisis develops and the Guardian has just short-circuited.


*Actually, interestingly enough, sometimes they do the opposite and are the ones insistent on keeping the problem as simple as it is. I'm wondering now if this is a reflex due to the fact that they can't always be at a super high level of problem-solving, or maybe, just maaaaybe, when they're analyzing a problem to death it truly is because it's a larger problem than others conceive of at the time. hmmm, food for thought. I still stand by my statement that some make it more complicated than it needs to be.